'Bachelor in Paradise' spoilers: Shocking new spoilers and cheating claims surface -- Who is still together and which couples split up? (SPOILERS)
By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 10/31/2022
Startling new Bachelor in Paradise spoilers have emerged -- including post-filming updates on where current couples stand, shocking new spoilers about an alleged cheating scandal that took place after the finale, and a surprising new Bachelor Nation coupling.
Victoria called Alex "every girl's dream," but she said she felt guilty to date two men at once and rub her feelings for Alex in Johnny's face.
So what happens on the rest ofBachelor in Paradise's eighth season? Keep reading for all the Paradise details, including shocking new spoilers, according to Reality Steve spoiler blogger Steve Carbone.
Even though Season 8 of Bachelor in Paradise is the first season of the show to air as part of ABC's fall schedule rather than its usual late-summer scheduling, the Paradise season was still filmed in June similar to prior seasons.
The production schedule means that Bachelor in Paradise's Season 8 final Rose Ceremony couples will have spent nearly four months in "the real world" by the time the season finale airs on ABC -- longer than any other Bachelor in Paradise season.
Bachelor in Paradise host Jesse Palmer took to Instagram on June 9 and posted a photo of himself posing next to an "open" sign on a beach decorated with blankets, vases and lights.
"With the power vested in me, I now officially declare Paradise OPEN!!!" Jesse captioned the image, announcing that Bachelor in Paradise's eighth season had begun production.
"It's insane down here. It's absolutely crazy," Jesse told Us Weekly while the season was still filming.
"There's all these people. There is just so much chaos, so much drama, and never-before-seen things down here taking place in Paradise... And we've been switching things up. We've been changing things up and it's hard to keep track of it all, to be honest."
Jesse said the show was already "amazing" at that point, adding how he was "having so much fun."
"I always wondered as a fan of the show, 'How paradise-y was Paradise?' And I can tell you, it is so much fun. It really is paradise. This place is magic," Jesse gushed.
"He is so great. He really is. I'm going to cry because I'm so happy!" Rachel gushes to her girlfriends.
When asked in what capacity she'll be a part of the show, Rachel told Variety in a recent interview, "They're going to tune in and find out... I definitely make an appearance on the beach. What happens? Everyone will just have to wait and see, but itâ€™s definitely crazy down there."
However given the Bachelor in Paradise season was filmed after Rachel got engaged to Tino Franco at The Bachelorette Season 19's final Rose Ceremony in May but before Rachel and Tino subsequently split up in August, Rachel didn't go to Paradise looking to find love.
Rachel's Bachelor in Paradise appearance was then presumably just a guest appearance in which she hosted a date or visited her fellow former The Bachelor and The Bachelorette castmates.
In addition they also added five new men -- former The Bachelorette bachelors Tyler Norris, Alex Bordyukov, Rick Leach, Olumide "Olu" Onajide, and Adam Todd from The Bachelorette: Australia's sixth season. However, Rick and Olu were sent home before the twist ended after none of the original bachelorettes were interested in them.
Justin Glaze was also reportedly able to return to the beach before the third Rose Ceremony -- it's unclear why he was allowed to -- and took interest in Eliza Isichei.
But Rodney Mathews had also set his eyes on Eliza during the twist and even ended up breaking up with Lace Morris to pursue a shot at love with Eliza, leaving Eliza in a love triangle.
Eliza reportedly eventually chose to give Rodney a rose and walk Justin out at the season's third Rose Ceremony.
However once she returned to Bachelor in Paradise's beach, Eliza told Rodney she had felt pressured to give him a rose and decided to quit Paradise instead of pursuing a romance with Rodney.
Alex and Adam were also reportedly eliminated after the twist, however Tyler apparently received a rose from Brittany Galvin and survived to date another day.
Hayden Markowitz and twins Joey Young and Justin Young arrived either before or after the third Rose Ceremony, according to Carbone. Hayden reportedly didn't last long but the twins stuck around for a while.
"When Lyndsey came on the beach, there weren't many options, so she asked Logan, [and] Kate told him she didn't want him going on a date so Lyndsey just went home," Carbone wrote in his June 28 blog post.
Shanae Ankney, Florence, and Mara also reportedly got caught up in a five-way love triangle with Joey and Justin, and Andrew and Jessenia got together at one point.
Carbone reported back in late June, "The only couple I'm almost positive is gonna get engaged is Brandon and Serene. In fact, I'd be surprised if they didn't. Outside of that, anyone's fair game to break up."
A second fan then also claimed to have seen Victoria and Greg walking a quiet street while enjoying her honeymoon in Capri, an Italian island that is only a couple of hours away from Rome by train and ferry.
Unfortunately neither fan was able to take a good photo or video showing the faces of the alleged couple, leaving the legitimacy of the claims uncertain.
However, the sightings were consistent with prior rumors Carbone said he had heard.
"I did hear 2 weeks ago 'rumblings' about Victoria and Greg Grippo being involved together in some capacity," Carbone wrote in his October 25 blog posting.
Carbone couldn't confirm or deny that Victoria and Johnny were recently in Italy together, but he had heard there is "definitely" something going on between Victoria and Greg and they're "in communication" -- whether that means they're talking, hooking up or dating.
"All I know is they are definitely in contact since her breakup with Johnny. Whether it played a role in the breakup I'm not sure," Carbone explained.
But later on October 25, Carbone tweeted a new update that he had now confirmed Victoria and Greg were indeed in Italy together.
Carbone then proceeded to post a video which appeared to show Victoria and Greg each dressed very casually and attempting to obscure their appearances.
Victoria and Greg each wore sunglasses and large, loose-fitting coats and appeared to be doing their best to go incognito, with Victoria wearing casual large white pants and Greg seemingly wearing dark jeans and a baseball cap.
The Roman fountain footage represented a big wardrobe change from the earlier photo that allegedly showed Victoria and Greg in Capri.
The Capri photo, seemingly taken in the evening, appeared to show the couple openly enjoying a date night outing. Neither Victoria and Greg wore coats or hats, and Victoria was wearing a tight-fitting miniskirt outfit with knee-high boots.
On October 26, Carbone tweeted out an additional photo taken earlier that day which showed Victoria and Greg at Leonardo da Vinci International Airport in Rome.
"For those who STILL didn't believe that was Greg and Victoria in Italy... here's another. On the shuttle at FCO airport in Italy at 10am local time this morning," he wrote.
"Just so we're clear, Victoria & Greg are back in the states now," he added in a pair of followup tweets. "They flew from Rome to Newark this morning and landed about 90 minutes ago. She's headed back to Nashville now."
"So when she inevitably posts something from home either later tonight or tmrw, save your 'See, she's in Nashville' takes. I don't know why some of you are having a hard time accepting they were in Italy this past wknd until today when they flew home."
Victoria and Greg's faces were clearly visible in the photo, which appeared to have been taken by another passenger on the same shuttle.