While Johnny appeared devastated on the reunion stage, saying he had been under the impression he and Victoria were going to work on things and stay together, Victoria boasted about her new relationship and said she doesn't "give a f-ck" with people think about her because of it.
Victoria admitted, however, she and Johnny had conversations after their split and also went to therapy, which led Johnny to believe their relationship really wasn't over until their last in-person meeting around the time of his birthday in mid-September.
From Johnny's perspective, he and Victoria fought constantly because they were on "two different levels" in terms of their lifestyles and what they need to be happy. He also claimed Victoria was jealous and "heartbroken" over his The Bachelorette stint with Gabby Windey, which was airing on television while they were secretly engaged.
Johnny said The Bachelorette caused problems in his relationship and his "Happy Couple" visits with Victoria weren't exactly joyful.
On that podcast episode, Victoria and Greg said they met in Summer 2021 and became friends.
The couple revealed they had interest in each other but never acted on those feelings, especially since Victoria wanted to appear on Bachelor in Paradise and Greg was in a relationship with a woman overseas at that point.
Victoria therefore looked for love on Paradise and got engaged to Johnny.
Victoria said that once she was single again, she called Greg and he visited her at her home in Nashville in late September. While the pair had felt chemistry and a strong connection, they said they discussed how it'd be bad timing to spark up a romance right away.
But once Greg returned to New York, he realized he wanted to see Victoria again. The couple therefore claimed to have had their first official date in Italy in late September, thinking no fans would spot them.
Greg said he then asked Victoria to be his girlfriend, officially, on Halloween.
"I just blurted out, 'Will you be my girlfriend?' And she said, 'Yes.' And I was like, 'Good.... because I am falling in love with you,'" Greg recalled, adding how he is now "head over heels" in love with Victoria and plans to move to Nashville to be with her.
Although Victoria moved on from Johnny quickly, she said she never cheated on him. And Greg also insisted the breakup "had nothing to do with me."