'90 Day Fiance' Tell-All Part 2 recap: Natalie suggests Mike betrayed her with another woman, Angela gushes about Michael
By Elizabeth Kwiatkowski, 02/18/2020
90 Day Fiance's Part 2 of the Tell All special featured the seventh season's couples reuniting and providing updates on their relationships -- including Natalie Mordovtseva suggesting she fell out of love with Mike Youngquist due to a betrayal involving another woman during Monday night's episode on TLC.
The Tell-All special featured Mike, a 34-year-old from Sequim, Washington, and Natalie, a 35-year-old from Kyiv, Ukraine; Anna Campisi, a 38-year-old from Bellevue, Nebraska, and Mursel Mistanoglu, a 38-year-old from Antalya, Turkey; Michael Jessen, a 41-year-old from Greenwich, Connecticut, and Juliana Custodio de Sousa, a 23-year-old from Goiania, Brazil; and Robert Springs, a 41-year-old from Winter Park, Florida, and Anny, a 30-year-old from Santiago, Dominican Republic.
The following couples were also featured in the episode: Blake Abelard, a 29-year-old from Los Angeles, California, and Jasmin Lahtinen, a 27-year-old from Helsinki, Finland; Tania Maduro, a 29-year-old from Colchester, Connecticut, and Syngin Colchester, a 29-year-old from Cape Town, South Africa; Angela Deem, a 54-year-old from Hazlehurst, GA, and Michael Ilesanmi, a 30-year-old from Lagos, Nigeria; and Emily Larina, a 28-year-old from Portland, Oregon, and Sasha Larin, a 31-year-old from Moscow, Russia.
Natalie was asked to reveal the current status of her relationship with Mike, and she said things were "on hold" because she had a lot of fears and doubts on her side. Natalie said, however, she couldn't speak for the both of them.
"I'm not out of the relationship," Natalie confirmed.
POLL: DO YOU THINK MIKE DID ANYTHING WRONG AND NATALIE'S ANGER IS JUSTIFIED?
But Natalie wasn't sure how to proceed with Mike, who admitted times had been tough and they had problems that needed to be worked out.
Natalie said she felt like she was talking to a wall sometimes, and Mike said he felt the same way. Natalie suggested they were having problems because they weren't able to spend much time with each other.
Mike shared that he believes there is "something out there that's far more intelligent than we are" but he doesn't believe in God.
"It doesn't make me a bad person. I don't judge anyone. I'll support Natalie to the fullest... I'll go to church," Mike insisted.
But Natalie was upset because they had allegedly discussed religion a million times and she wants their children to be raised with the same faith of their parents. Natalie didn't want her kids to be confused by their different belief systems.
Natalie had said she didn't trust people who don't believe in God, so when Shaun asked if she trusted Natalie, the Ukraine native didn't know what to say or how to respond.
Emily pointed out Mike would have "a lot to learn" if he chooses to convert to Natalie's religion.
Mike felt bad about the idea his children might be confused, but he said he wasn't going to lie to his children. Natalie hoped people would respect her choice no matter what it is, and she wanted a man who would be like her.
"Don't push him. Don't try to change him. I've done this before and see what happened? Two marriages and two children behind," Sasha advised Natalie.
Natalie admitted she can be selfish at times and not think about other people's feelings when she's very wrapped up in her own. She said she had strong feelings for Mike but avoided questions about love.
"Do you love Mike?" Shaun asked.
"I really think you're a beautiful, nice lady. You're not giving us answers here. I mean, do you love the guy or you don't? What is it?" Angela asked Natalie.
"I'm cautious. I don't want to go through another divorce. And I told him a million times that. And there was a moment he hurt me a lot, and Michael knows what was the moment. I'm not going to discuss it here," Natalie explained.
"I have feelings for Michael but I love myself more."
Natalie said she loved Mike when they began the K-1 process, suggesting she had fallen out of love with Mike. Natalie said things happened that forced Natalie to push Mike away.
Shaun asked Mike if he had been unfaithful, and Mike dodged the question.
Robert then asked Natalie to give a "yes" or "no" answer about whether she loved Mike.
"It's not easy to earn my trust, love, respect and everything," Natalie said, adding that she wasn't going to express love just because that's what Michael wanted to hear.
Tania questioned Mike on what he might've done to hurt Natalie, but he said he couldn't recall anything specific.
Mike insisted he loved Natalie and wanted her to come to America but her decision to return her engagement ring rubbed salt in his wound.
Mike revealed Natalie's K-1 visa was still processing, but she was afraid to move to the United States and then just continue fighting with him.
"I think Natalie's just over it," Angela pointed out.
Syngin said he could not marry someone who hasn't said, "I love you," but then Natalie revealed it's difficult to love someone who says he or she loves you but then betrays you afterward.
Shaun asked Mike what Natalie was referring to when she mentioned having been "betrayed," so Natalie asked him to tell the story.
"So I have a best friend. I used to live with her and everything -- watched her dog grow up. I've known her for years and years and years. She got engaged, she got married and wanted me to be her best man. Like, we're just really good friends," Mike explained.
Mike said he told Natalie that he wanted to attend this woman's wedding.
"I said, 'It's really important to her and I just want to go and support my friend and do that.' Her fiance was supposed to be there at the house the night before the wedding, but he was with his boys staying at his house," Mike continued.
"I went back to the house and then slept on the couch, but I was supposed to stay at my aunt's. And then the next day, I woke up, I called Natalie."
Natalie interjected and stated, "It's not true. We cannot talk because it's not true... It's no point to talk."
Mike asked Natalie what wasn't true about his story, but she said nothing.
Sasha therefore asked Natalie if she thought Mike was cheating on her, and Natalie nodded her head "yes."
"If he tells you some details, you would understand," Natalie said.
"This happened a year ago!" Mike shouted.
"We were already engaged," Natalie argued, "and I ask him, please."
Robert admitted Mike's situation is why a lot of guys lie, because otherwise, the woman assumes he's being dishonest.
Shaun asked Natalie if she thought something happened between Mike and that woman, but Mike answered for her.
"Nothing has ever happened -- never, ever. Before or ever!" Mike insisted. "Nothing. We've just literally been good friends."
"Yes, enough that she wrote me, 'He's not marrying you,'" Natalie claimed.
As their co-stars acted surprised -- as if things were starting to fall into place and make sense -- Mike felt the need to elaborate on his story.
"I called her and she got mad," Mike said. "She got mad at me the next day. Natalie was assuming we slept together and they went at each other's throats."
But Natalie argued, "No, I just [asked] where is her husband?... Michael, you were with this woman by your -- only you and this woman. Why you lie to me? Why [did you say] her husband is going to be there?"
"Because her husband was supposed to be there," Mike pointed out.
"Her husband never was there," Natalie concluded.
Mike said he didn't lie because the plan was for the woman's fiance to stay with them.
"He was supposed to be there! I didn't know he wasn't," Mike said, shrugging his shoulders.
Natalie said she'd never wake up in a house with a man when it's only the man and herself.
"I would never do this to you. Never," Natalie said, before repeating how Mike had lied.
"I told you [the husband wasn't there]! I'd never lie to you," Mike told Natalie.
Natalie grew tired of fighting, and Robert said he understood where she was coming from because had he been in her situation, he'd "be pissed too."
Natalie added that if everyone knew the details, they would definitely take her side.
"I feel bad for you," Robert said.
"I will not say anything more because -- I'm sorry," Natalie noted.
Shaun asked Natalie how she would feel if this incident never happened, and she replied, "Yes, I would love Michael. I would love him to death."
Angela acknowledged Natalie still loved Mike but she was hurting.
Shaun followed that up with a question to Mike, asking if he'd be willing to return to Ukraine and work things out with Natalie and possibly win her back.
"Yeah," Mike responded.
But Natalie said she wasn't sure whether she could forgive him and that's why she put him through so much when it comes to her religion and morals.
"That's why I push him, because I don't understand what to expect from him," Natalie cried. "And I cannot move to America for a man who can do stuff like he did. And I didn't even tell you all."
Anna said the group wasn't hearing the whole story, and Shaun hoped Mike and Natalie would be able to work things out.
Mike was hoping to salvage his relationship because he said he wants marriage and children. Mike therefore said he'd travel to the Ukraine soon and give the relationship all he's got.
ANGELA AND MICHAEL
Angela said Michael's K-1 visa denial was "tough," and Michael agreed it was a "painful" experience because he had all the required documents. Michael said their relationship must have come across as being fake and insincere.
Angela admitted Michael struggled to get his point across during his K-1 visa interview, which only lasted for 20 minutes. Angela said Michael treated the interview like a job interview and he needed to show emotion and heart.
Angela told the other couples they could make it as long as they truly loved each other.
Michael's three friends from Nigeria then called in to discuss his relationship, and they claimed they were supportive of Angela and Michael's romance in the beginning but Angela had changed over time.
"Y'all have never been his friends... And I'm the classiest trashiest b-tch you'll ever meet! Remember that baby, and I'll own that! Call me trashy face to face!" Angela yelled.
Michael's friends therefore called her "trashy" again and kept repeating "pumpkin." The guys joked about how they hoped Angela wouldn't beat Michael up, and then Angela stormed off the stage and demanded production remove the three guys from the call.
"Cut 'em off or I'll walk out this door!" Angela yelled. "I gave them a chance... Kiss my white trash ass!"
Michael told his friends to stop talking, and Robert agreed Michael's friends should have never called his girl trashy. Robert respected Michael for sticking up for his fiancee.
"She loves me, I love her. That's it! Period," Michael said.
Angela said she was so grateful Michael stuck it out when she showed her insecurities from getting hurt in the past and she had come to realize their age difference didn't matter. Angela believed she and Michael had found true love and his friends were just jealous.
Angela said Michael's friends always guided Michael away from her and didn't like her from the beginning. Angela said she wasn't going to give Michael's friends another chance, and Michael called them "stubborn" and said he was done with it.
MICHAEL AND JULIANA
Michael revealed he had lost some friends over Juliana due to jealousy or judgment.
Michael said he found out who's really with him and who's against him through his unconventional relationship with Juliana.
BLAKE AND JASMIN
Blake's lifelong friends Rita and Everett called in to the reunion special.
Jasmin insisted she's interested in learning everything about Blake's culture -- including going to clubs, listening to his music and hanging out with his friends.
Jasmin said it was actually Blake who wasn't doing much to embrace her lifestyle and hobbies.
Shaun asked Rita and Everett whether Jasmin had attempted to get to know them better and befriend them, but Everett replied, "Not yet," followed by Rita's comment that Jasmin had put "zero effort" into even asking, "How are you?"
Rita said she got frustrated with Jasmin and felt Blake's friends weren't worth her time. Rita said Jasmin acted above them and better than them.
But Blake pointed out that's just how Finnish people are. Everett, however, didn't think it was a cultural thing -- he thought it was a personality trait.
"My frustration is coming more from a place where I know how Blake is and nobody can tell him anything, like what to do or how to do it. He's almost getting lost, catering to everything [Jasmin] wants to do," Rita claimed.
Rita said Blake went to Everett's 30th birthday party for about 20 minutes and Jasmin seemed to be changing him. Rita wished Blake would stand up to his wife more.
Blake said his friends liked doing things that were out of Jasmin's comfort zone, such as the nightlife scene, and Jasmin insisted she's just shy and not outgoing.
Jasmin told Blake's friends she'd be willing to develop relationships with them by doing "daytime things" and "no more clubs." Everett hoped Jasmin would become more outgoing before Los Angeles and California "eats [her] up."
Rita explained she hopes steps are made -- at least for Blake's sake -- until she just stops caring entirely.